So? What is the Palestian, Jewish ‘Thing’ About, Anyway?

Admittedly I know little of the background of the current crises in Gaza. I find a lot of it wearisome because much of it seems to me be testosterone-driven posturing on both sides.

Up front, I am not a fan of the Israeli government.   I find the fact that our government spends far too much taxpayer money on subsidizing Israeli interests (as with subsidizing any foreign country) wherein the claim is that “Israel’s interests” are our interests.  There’s no problem in Israel’s “right to exist” just as there’s no problem with those whose borders connect with Israel’s having that same ‘right to exist.’  Outside of the role ‘the Holy Land’ plays in the apocalyptic wet dreams of preachers like Hagee, Dobson, and other end-of-times doomsayers, for me, there is not an overt issue of religion, ethnicity or citizenship.

There is no succinct primer for those of us who pay more attention to what goes on locally or nationally or sometimes are just overwhelmed by all the shit going on in the world.

I have found some quite interesting and informative sites.  More maps with explanation here from another perspective

Israel was created in 1948, after UN Resolution 181 partitioned the territory of the British Mandate for Palestine into two states for Jews and Palestinian Arabs. At the time, there were approximately 1.2 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews in all of Palestine. The Arabs objected to the creation of the Jewish state and fought a war against it. The Arab side lost the war, and the Palestinian state never really came into being. The territory allotted to the Palestinian state by the UN partition resolution was taken over by Israel and Jordan. About 780, 000 Palestinians became refugees, many of them living in the Gaza strip as well as in the West Bank.


Huffington Post has a guest column by Mustafa Barghouti, Secretary General of the Palestinian National Initiative, who as “a former secular candidate for President of Palestine [and] has been a strong advocate of non-violent responses to Israeli occupation.  Barghouti is thought by many to be a leading contender in the next Palestinian presidential election. Perspectives have also been solicited from various national leaders and incumbent Knesset leaders in Israel.” His column is here.


One of the things I was scouting out was blogs that would present some idea of the situation ongoing in Gaza.  The one source I read daily is Al-Jazeera (English).  You can follow on Twitter if you so wish as well.  There’s the Middle Eastern Times that in an editorial todaysays truth is the inevitable casualty of any war and it’s illustrated with ‘the war in Gaza’ with boht the Israelis and Hamas (Gaza) guilty.  “It just so happens that one side is more sophisticated at it than the other.”

And truth be told, there are often at least three versions of it. In the case of what is transpiring in Gaza there is the Palestinian version of the truth, there is the Israeli version of the truth, and there is the truth.

  • Guerrilla Guides– I first ‘heard’ or read about this while at firedoglake.  Dr. Maryam was a “guest” to provide information regarding the dire medical situation in Iraq, especially in relation to women and children. If I remember correctly, she’s a pediatrician.
  • Palestine Think Tank has some great stuff.  The scrolling leader at the top is pretty graphic, not what we’re used to seeing in the U.S. media.
  • Palestine Blogsis an aggregator feed for a variety of blogs with most being decidedly anti-Israeli.

And for variety – Doc’s Talk– a Dennis Prager, Alan Dershowitz type wagon where Somali pirates are working in conjunction with Iran to get weapons to Hamas, and the throwing out of acronyms – DBKA….


The saddest thing of all – Joe the Plumber to Gaza to report.   Talk about totally trivialization of what’s going on currently in Gaza.  If Joe, the fucking plumber, can ‘report’ well then, it’s not important.  And then to open his mouth and speak to the media reporting during the ‘time of war’ or conflict.  First off, he doesn’t know the Constitution or the guarantee of knowledge to be available the American people via the press nor does he apparently understand the concept of accountability.

The ignorant and ugly American on tour.


4 Responses

  1. The other day, I was listening to some, uh, I think Israeli official on the radio, and realized that it’s totally not worth listening to officials on either side. All they talk about is how the other guy is lying.

  2. Just like with the Norwegian doctor who said those caught in the middle of all this were in “Dante’s hell.” So then the doctor’s ‘politics’ are brought to supposedly discredit his observations. (He’s some ultraleftist, yadda ya)

    How can they discredit his observations when he is getting and seeing these folks coming into his hospital and the injuries they are suffering – or their deaths?

  3. Joe the Dumber has made stupidity into a lucrative thing. Only the wingtards would be willing to pay this idiot for opening his mouth.

    Is it any wonder the Republican Party is dying?

  4. Hmmm, You would do better to not focus on preachers–and to focus upon God’s written word; the land of Israel was given to the Jewish people by God thousands of years ago and there are thousands of years of Jewish history in the land–that cannot be said of the limited Arab presence in the land. Jerusalem is historically known as the Capitol of [Jewish] Israel–Jerusalem was never the capitol of an Arab nation. You have a link to so called Gaza carnage–there is no carnage committed by Jews against those Gaza Arabs–its all Arab propaganda! What about the carnage the Arab homicide bombers create? Jews are not known for committing these true acts of carnage. And what about the terror these Gaza Arabs create by sending thousands of rockets into Israel? And you call it carnage when the Jews finally react and enter Gaza to protect themselves? that is truly pathetic. You have much to learn about these Arabs who called themselves palestinians–many of them and their main leaders were not even born in Israel, e.g. Yassir Arafat–he was an Egyptian. The motivation of these Arabs is hatred of Israel and of Jews–it has noting to do with the land!

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